A so called artists by the name Guillermo Habacuc Vargas with the help of 2 children, who he paid, caught a dog on the street. He tied the dog in his exhibition gallery so people could see it starve to death. He told everyone not to feed this dog. He calls himself an artist. After suffering for a few days dog died in the gallery.
The sickness doesn't stop there. In that event he was chosen to represent his country in the “Bienal Centroamericana Honduras 2008″.
There's a petition to boycott his exposition if you want to join go here www.petitiononline.com/13031953/
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sick motherfu*ker
This guy is sick! I advocate treating him as he treated the dog, tie hi to a lamp post and leave him to starve to death!
I'm not some nutcase PETA person but this is fucking disgusting. Not only is the artist a low life piece of shit, but the people that went to view this are equally as bad for not helping that dog. Pathetic.
And what about the other sicko gallery visitors !! Didn't ANYONE do anything ?????
That has actually sickend me what kind of thing is this art ment o say!
I'm a dog lover and I think his actions are disgusting, but...
I see 2 issues here to understand the full circumstances. What is the cultural attitude towards dogs in Honduras? In some places dogs are considered pests much like rats.
And it is my understanding he asked people to not feed the dog, but did nothing to enforce that. What does it say about his gallery attendees that they didn't ignore the artist and try to alleviate the dog's suffering?
The 2 issues may relate to each other.
You are not "artist." You are a lower life form piece of shit!
Yeah, this is essentially Stanley Milgram's obedience experiment for the 21's century. The explicit intent of the art piece isn't to starve the dog to death, but to expose the blindly obedient nature of the gallery goers. That doesn't excuse it, as this experiment was already done...by Stanley Milgram. As I recall, a life was lost during that experiment, only it was a human who committed suicide, having been so horrified that he / she could be led to do something like that.
Still sick, and shame on the art gallery visitors.
Wth , and nobody even fed it ?
Not like he could sue for feeding a dog .....
Ppl who went there are just as bad as him .....
Unfortunately, yes this is art. But an art work can be wrong, imoral or illegal.
In this case I suggest just get in there and save this dog.
how is that art? that's like saying John Wayne Gacy's crawl space is art...
this must have been amazing and very moving.
I think the point of this piece is that it's hypocritical for westerners to get all their knickers in a twist over a dog while ignoring the 15,000 HUMANS who starve to death daily
"I think the point of this piece is that it's hypocritical for westerners to get all their knickers in a twist over a dog while ignoring the 15,000 HUMANS who starve to death daily"
Their is a difference. In one case you have impoverished regions of the world with no food and some of the people that live their starve. In the other case an animal that was captured, held and intentionally starved and killed.
One is a shame one is cruelty.
Absolutely Abhorrent! What a twisted and sick individual - and anyone who went and did nothing is just as fucked up. And the gallery should be closed, or at least restaffed, for allowing this kind of "art" to take place. We obviously need to check ourselves as a species when people like this are allowed to roam freely while others are locked up for simple shit.
Patrick Harvey
Floyd, VA, USA
I hope this piece of garbage makes his way to the USA some day where someone will be waiting for him and make sure that he experiences a horror similar to the one this poor dog endured.
Do some search before getting unpolite and boring! The guy made a reportage AGAINST the dog's conditions, and in order to be in the center of attention, he catched a dog that was near death, and put a leash on him only to extremize the conditions. all your comments seems another bonsaikitten mass-stupidity. (sorry for mispelled english)
cruel to starve a dog --- cruel to eat chicken? SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCE!!1!@
look at every angry response on this board and you will see how effective his art is. Props to this artist.
I feel sorry for the dog, but still- this is definitely art. Something has been fucked with.
The weirdest thing is how "viewers" came and complained about the dog's condition, then went home and blogged about it. Why didn't they whip out food and tell the "artist" to piss off?
It's a scam to get publicity. He'll probably reveal that the dog is actually alive and well and that the whole piece was "a piece looking at human reactions to animal cruelty in the age of the internet". I hope.
this is art? like someone here said, let's tie him to a pole & see what happens after a few days of no food & water. this makes me so mad!!
I hope that guy comes to my city so I can feed the dog a big fat juicy steak right in front of his pompous, evil face.
Someone said something about cultural context, and yes, that's a valid consideration as to why it happened, but that doesn't make it right. Even though rats are considered pests in the U.S., I wouldn't pay to see art of a rat starved to death. I wouldn't even pay to see a cockroach starved to death. It's inhumane torture.
"look at every angry response on this board and you will see how effective his art is. Props to this artist."
By that logic one could claim that the shooter at Virginia Tech could be revered as a great artist, had he only claimed it was art. You're an idiot.
Erm, am I the only one who thinks this can be considered legitimate art? I mean, it really would be interesting to watch. Yes, it's a shame the dog was in so much pain, but it was INTERESTING to observe. I think art needs to inspire and make people think, and that's exactly what this does.
This is absolutely unbelievable!!!! For the people who think THIS is art - WTF?.. are you kidding me?? That poor dog did not deserve this and this is NOT art.. IT'S A CRIME.. and should be punishable by law.
I don't care what country this is in or what the culture is like.. That dog was a living breathing animal!!!!
And to the people that were there and watched this and to anyone else who thinks this is art.. Shame on you!
An animal died?!?!?!?!?! in Honduras???? Internet to the rescue!
i was reading someone's comment about Honduras view on dogs ..and your right pretty much dogs roam the country and are viewed as pests and most people dont have dogs as pets like here in the u.s ..Its like this in latin america..You would never see a person walking their dog((only if their upper class))..BUT this does not give the right to no one in the world to let a innocent dog suffer his final days without being fed
"Do some search before getting unpolite and boring! The guy made a reportage AGAINST the dog's conditions, and in order to be in the center of attention, he catched a dog that was near death, and put a leash on him only to extremize the conditions."
To the person who posted the above, a much simpler solution would have been to TAKE THE DOG IN AND FEED IT HIMSELF!! So this is happening to animals en masse in his country? There are better ways to expose an injustice. If you can't save them all, at least save the ones you can. Sweet baby jebus...seriously...
And to another person who said perhaps the dog is fine and this was an experiment on people's reactions...we can only hope.
"Erm, am I the only one who thinks this can be considered legitimate art? I mean, it really would be interesting to watch. Yes, it's a shame the dog was in so much pain, but it was INTERESTING to observe. I think art needs to inspire and make people think, and that's exactly what this does."
- Thats not art thats just being cruel, Yes you are the only one. Why don't we watch art with you starving in public view, how interesting is that.
definitely art, but hardcore as shit. poor dog :/
I posted a minute ago about being legitimate art, but I need to add this:
Most of you guys don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. "Oh, I'd give the doggy a steak! I'd cut the leash and feed 'til it was full!" At the point of starvation the dog was at, your attempts to feed it would have killed it. It's body could no longer process food because of the long period of time it hadn't eaten. Way to go, murderers.
Omg what a sick fuck! We should tie this guy to a pole and make him starve to death. fucking artist wana be.
"- Thats not art thats just being cruel, Yes you are the only one. Why don't we watch art with you starving in public view, how interesting is that."
It's very interesting. Sucks for me, but a very interesting thing to view.
"Most of you guys don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. "Oh, I'd give the doggy a steak! I'd cut the leash and feed 'til it was full!" At the point of starvation the dog was at, your attempts to feed it would have killed it. It's body could no longer process food because of the long period of time it hadn't eaten. Way to go, murderers."
How do you know that, exactly?
:sigh: silly artfags...
i hope somebody kills this sick motherfucker
You people f&^*%$* blow my mind... I can't believe what I'm reading from some people.. calling this art and saying it would be interesting to watch.. What is wrong with you??? Did your father beat you as a child or were you sexually molested?? only a sicko with MAJOR problems would think this is art or this is okay!!!
"How do you know that, exactly?"
Because that's how things work. When you haven't eaten in so long, your body can no longer process food. You need to be fed intravenously until your body starts to return to normal, then you can go back to solid foods.
I hope those sons of bitches burn in hell
hope this guy to die in his own shit.
"Erm, am I the only one who thinks this can be considered legitimate art?"
I do not laud this "artist" for being an intellectual provocateur, no matter the issues he was trying to raise, or the perceptions he was trying to change. Art can be dramatic without a physical death. We live in an age where such drastic measures are not only immoral, they are unnecessary. It doesn't matter how much your mind is changed if your heart is made of stone.
sick nazi piece of shit
Anyone know if this piece is still for sale? I have the perfect corner for it at home. Amazing!!!
Someone find this guy. Seriously. When you find him, put it on youtube.
No one seems to have commented on how wrong tying the dog up was.
Yes, a lot of dogs (and people) die every day through starvation, but not a lot of dogs (or people) are tied up and allowed to suffer, while being observed, in this way.
This isn't an exhibit meant to illustrate the slow death of a starving dog. Rather, it is an exhibit to the testament of how vicious the human spirit can become and how easily the masses can act as sheep without any conscious.
Wake up people! All it takes is one person to put a stop to this kind of senseless bullshit.
To the artist: You're a disgrace to the human race.
To the viewers: Your inactions only serve to condone his actions.
-Aphexcoil
This is brilliant. Consider the following:
- If his goal was to foster discussion, he has accomplished this extraordinarily. Look at the discussion going on here alone. Look at all of the questions that have been raised, and look at how he's bringing things to light which are typically ignored.
- This artwork has generated a lot of interest from around the world. I suspect quite a few dogs' lives will be saved as a direct result of the artist taking this action (not that I think that was the artist's intention at all).
I'm glad some people have been quick enough to point out that the artist isn't necessarily the one to blame for the dog's treatment. Are the people who came to view the exhibit and didn't feed the dog not at fault as well? Francis Galton theorized about eugenics, and then Hitler put his theories into practice - who do you blame for the holocaust? If you tied up a starving dog anywhere else people congregate, what do you think would happen?
Please give us his information,, anyone and we will take care of him.. Please any information on him or where to find him and his associates.
"Most of you guys don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. "Oh, I'd give the doggy a steak! I'd cut the leash and feed 'til it was full!" At the point of starvation the dog was at, your attempts to feed it would have killed it. It's body could no longer process food because of the long period of time it hadn't eaten. Way to go, murderers."
Alright, so let's all stare at it in its last throes of agony. That's so much better. What about...oh, I don't know...a freaking bowl of water? Or how about...what's it called...compassion? Yeah, at least some people on here feel moved to do more than watch something die right in front of them.
It's hilarious those of you who are up in arms and threatening to murder this man. Congratulations, you're exactly like him.
'Yeah, this is essentially Stanley Milgram's obedience experiment for the 21's century. The explicit intent of the art piece isn't to starve the dog to death, but to expose the blindly obedient nature of the gallery goers. That doesn't excuse it, as this experiment was already done...by Stanley Milgram. As I recall, a life was lost during that experiment, only it was a human who committed suicide, having been so horrified that he / she could be led to do something like that.'
Perfect. Its a testament that no one gave a fuck.
1. the dog would have survived if anyone would have fed/freed it, which they did not.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO SAY OR WHAT THOSE PEOPLE DID OR DID NOT DO.. DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS NOT ART AT ALL!!! THIS IS A CRIME.. I DON'T CARE HOW YOU LOOK AT IT OR MAKE SENSE OF IT!!! IT IS A HORRBILE HORRIBLE THING!!!
"Alright, so let's all stare at it in its last throes of agony. That's so much better. What about...oh, I don't know...a freaking bowl of water? Or how about...what's it called...compassion? Yeah, at least some people on here feel moved to do more than watch something die right in front of them."
Art isn't about mercy.
Ok so I'm going to take a shit, shove it down Guillermo's throat, take pictures of the whole thing and call it art.
I HOPE YOU FUCKING DIE! SERIOUSLY ANYONE IN THE RIGHT MIND TO TORTURE A HELPLESS ANIMAL SHOULD HAVE THEIR BALLS CUT OFF AND FED TO THE DOG TO MAKE IT BETTER! LET'S FUCKING CUT HIS FUCKING DICK OFF AND FUCKING SHOVE IT BACK IN HIS FUCKING FUCKED UP FUCKING MOUTH. GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU FUCKED UP MOTHER FUCKING FUCKER. I AGREE TO FUCKING TORTURING THIS SON OF A BITCH. TEAR OUT HIS NAILS, CUT OFF HIS FINGERS, SHAVE HIM FUCKING BALD. CUT HIS DICK OFF! SLICE HIS BALLS OPEN! YOU ARE ONE SICK ASS MOTHERFUCKER! YOUR MOTHER MUST HAVE BEEN ON FUCKING METH WHEN SHE HAD YOU! THAT'S RIGHT YOU ARE A FUCKING METH BABY. GET SOME BALLS AND STOP FUCKING TORTURING INNOCENT ANIMALS. FUCK YOU! LET'S GO HOLOCAUST, ON HIS FUCKING FUCKED UP MOTHER FUCKING SON OF A BITCH, BASTARD, D-BAG SHIT ASS HEAD FUCKING FUCKED UP FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FUCKING FACE. FUCK YOU! NO ONE LOVES YOU AND YOUR MOTHER IS A WHORE. I HAD SEX WITH HER. SHE IS A PROSTITUTE! I FUCKED YOUR MOM! AND KILLED HER! AFTER I RAPED HER. FUCK YOU!
It is only a 'criminal' activity if it is against the law where the activity was committed..
it may not be a crime to kill a dog where this occurred..
lets tie up the artist and starve him to death and call that art.
People complain at this poor dog, then go and eat a bucket of KFC...wheres the logic...
I Hope some ties him up so he can starve to death and call it "art"
I like how you call him a sick motherfucker in the same sentence you say we should cut his balls open.
You're exactly like the artist. You'd might as well have tied the dog up yourself.
No... it's a mortal crime.. it may not be punishable by law there but it's still a mortal crime.. this person is going to burn in hell!!!
htz, you make excellent points. This exhibit is the mob effect, and sadly, like you mentioned with Hitler's Eugenics, it's not unfathomable that no one would step in to stop it. Psychologically, there's a lot to be said about this exhibit (I'm not condoning it. I abhor its methods). I hope it does stick with enough people that if they ever saw something similar happening right in front of them they could step out of influence of the masses and make a personal decision to change things.
As cruel as this is to the dog, I think the artist had a pretty good way of showing people that they really don't have any courage. If you see a dying dog, you're just going to leave it because someone tells you to? Stand up for what you think is right, everyone! Grow some balls and feed the starving dog right in front of the artist's face, maybe it will make him proud to know someone has some dignity.
If you are upset with the artist that the dog died, you are missing the point of the exhibition.
The exhibition was not "watch a dog die", it was "I have asked you not to feed the dog, but as you watch a living being die from starvation, what will you do?"
I think that this was brilliant. Tragic yes, but brilliant. The attendees failed to protect the life of this animal when they had a chance, and they did nothing.
To me, the ability to show the truth of reality is art. And I believe that the artist did this.
He needed to pay two kids to catch a dog?
"Art isn't about mercy."
Art can be about a lot of things. Mercy is one of them. Watching a living creature die is not.
"He needed to pay two kids to catch a dog?"
It's called outsourcing. Why take the risk himself when he can pay someone else to do it?
and are you the artist?? no? so how the fuck do you know what he was trying to say.. dumb fucker.. it could have been the opposite.. but you come up with some sick ass way to defend it.. your a fucked up as this artist..
"Art can be about a lot of things. Mercy is one of them. Watching a living creature die is not."
I've seen a lot of people say this, and yet no one has answered my question. Why not>
<3 Love it. Amazing job. Congratulation sir, the piece was a huge success.
Anonymous said...
<3 Love it. Amazing job. Congratulation sir, the piece was a huge success.
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May you burn in hell with this so called artist!!!
I read every single comment here, and I don't understand how rational individuals can so suddenly be up in arms over this. Call it disgusting, I won't object. Call the artist sick, I won't object. Deny that exhibition is art? Well, I think it's art. I don't think it's close to the aforementioned obedience experiments - I consider it more like attending the zoo.
"Most of you guys don't seem to have any idea what you're talking about. "Oh, I'd give the doggy a steak! I'd cut the leash and feed 'til it was full!" At the point of starvation the dog was at, your attempts to feed it would have killed it. It's body could no longer process food because of the long period of time it hadn't eaten. Way to go, murderers."
About feeding it a steak...it's called hyperbole, genius.
I'd like to shit in your face and call that ART!!!!
sound good to you??
"About feeding it a steak...it's called hyperbole, genius."
So, by "feed it a steak," you meant "Take it to the overcrowded hospital and pay for the proper medical treatment to have intravenous nourishment administered, ween it to solid foods and take it home with you to support it for the rest of your life"? Makes sense.
"I'd like to shit in your face and call that ART!!!!
sound good to you??"
No, but it does sound interesting. I'd like to see the public's reaction to such a piece. Why? Because I would consider it art.
that fuck should be shot- piece of shit
THEN COME ON OVER AND I'LL DO IT!!! :)
This is not fucking art.
Kill the bastard!
What is up with this "philosophical" "what is art?" bull? This guy is a hack. For his next piece, he should put used tampons in a feminine briefcase full of monopoly money.
Oh, I don't want you to shit on my face. But my personal wishes aren't going to sway the fact that I think it would be art.
Similarly, the piece in question really sucks for the dog. I mean, he suffered and died in the name of art? Too bad for him, but good for us because we got to witness something beautiful.
"I've seen a lot of people say this, and yet no one has answered my question. Why not>"
Art is a representation of the world, not the actual world itself. As an abstraction, you can use sensory methods to express a point or ideal, but it is within a controlled context (I'm sure many will argue that this exhibit was a very controlled context). For instance, say someone has an installation of a gun shooting bullets, where the bullets are suspended in a 3D sculpture and you can touch them. You can experience a bullet firing without dying. If you're shot from the installation, that crosses the line of it being representative to being actual. It's like holding an art exhibition where you have someone at the front door asking for personal information for a credit card application, but then during the exhibit the information is disseminated to everyone present. You are crossing the boundary of representation to actuality. Some "art for art's sake" boffo's will no doubt be like "Oh! Art can be whatever you want it to be! That's what art is!". Can't we be provocative and be accountable at the same time?
"So, by "feed it a steak," you meant "Take it to the overcrowded hospital and pay for the proper medical treatment to have intravenous nourishment administered, ween it to solid foods and take it home with you to support it for the rest of your life"? Makes sense."
Yes. Makes a lot of sense. Sorry I'm not as selfish as you.
If this is art, would that mean that pedophilia is art? I mean, living creatures who can't fend for themselves are being exploited in both cases.
It's an interesting point. My question is, why can't it be both? Can't it be a representation and a physical thing as well? The dog represents the hundreds of millions of creatures throughout the world who are also dying of starvation. Therefore, he's a representation of a much larger problem. By dying, he's sparked this debate between thousands of people. An exhibit that makes people look closer at the complexities of life? That's art.
"Yes. Makes a lot of sense. Sorry I'm not as selfish as you."
Not once did I question the action. What I questioned is the fact that you used a "hyperbole" to completely change the meaning of a sentence.
something beautiful??? You are one sick sick individual..
YOU CAN NOT CALL THIS ART.. MANY HORRIBLE WEIRD THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE NAME OF "ART".. WHAT'S NEXT LINING PEOPLE UP ON THE STREETS AND PUTTING BULLETS IN THEIR HEADS AND CALLING IT ART.. SERIOUSLY YOU CAN MAKE THIS OKAY BY CALLING IT ART.. WHAT'S THE NEXT SO CALLED ARTIST GOING TO DO TO TRY AND "TOP" THIS.. IT'S GETTING WAY OUT OF CONTROL WHEN YOU CAN KILL SOMETHING (THAT'S RIGHT THEY KILLED THIS DOG) AND SAY IT'S OKAY BECASUE IT'S ART!!! WAKE UP !!!
"If this is art, would that mean that pedophilia is art? I mean, living creatures who can't fend for themselves are being exploited in both cases."
Now that is a very interesting question. Can it be considered art? I'd say, probably. I don't personally consider it art because it doesn't inspire me, but if it inspires someone then couldn't that single person consider it art to them?
What's this guy's address?
and killing a dog inspires you?? check into the hospital now becasue you need serious help
"something beautiful??? You are one sick sick individual..
YOU CAN NOT CALL THIS ART.. MANY HORRIBLE WEIRD THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE NAME OF "ART".. WHAT'S NEXT LINING PEOPLE UP ON THE STREETS AND PUTTING BULLETS IN THEIR HEADS AND CALLING IT ART.. SERIOUSLY YOU CAN MAKE THIS OKAY BY CALLING IT ART.. WHAT'S THE NEXT SO CALLED ARTIST GOING TO DO TO TRY AND "TOP" THIS.. IT'S GETTING WAY OUT OF CONTROL WHEN YOU CAN KILL SOMETHING (THAT'S RIGHT THEY KILLED THIS DOG) AND SAY IT'S OKAY BECASUE IT'S ART!!! WAKE UP !!!"
You don't think death is a beautiful thing? I do. It can profoundly effect so many lives. It can inspire, frighten, and give hope.
Now, let's cool it with the caps lock. I mean, we'd might as well speak like adults. I wouldn't consider lining people against a wall and shooting them in the head "Art," I would call it "Page D2 of USA Today" But other people may interpret it as art, and who am I to deny them that?
art my arse, hope he gets stabbed in the eyes by a rusty aids infected needle
You don't think death is a beautiful thing? I do. It can profoundly effect so many lives. It can inspire, frighten, and give hope.
Now, let's cool it with the caps lock. I mean, we'd might as well speak like adults. I wouldn't consider lining people against a wall and shooting them in the head "Art," I would call it "Page D2 of USA Today" But other people may interpret it as art, and who am I to deny them that? -
You have no heart and will die alone.. and when you die, i'll watch it and call it art.. Would you like that?
"Not once did I question the action. What I questioned is the fact that you used a "hyperbole" to completely change the meaning of a sentence."
Then I apologize for my assumption. I took your comment for sarcasm. I'm not sure how I changed the meaning of the sentence. By "feeding it a steak in his face" I meant taking action to fix the situation.
Many people have pointed out that the artist has definitely made the point that most people do not have the courage or the mindset to breach the mob mentality. So perhaps this man was successful in what he set out to do. The point is that we *should* go out of our way to make sure others (human or otherwise) are taken care of, but we more than often don't. It makes me want to vomit that the dog died in the presence of so many people, but would I do anything if I had the chance? I hope, with a "steak hyperbole" ready and waiting in my hand, I would.
"You have no heart and will die alone.. and when you die, i'll watch it and call it art.. Would you like that?"
Why do people keep asking me if I "would like that?" I've already answered this question several times. No, I wouldn't like that. But just because I wouldn't like that doesn't mean I wouldn't consider it art. I'm not particularly fond of the pieces on the Sistine Chapel, but I'm not going to deny that they're art.
Why do you say I have no heart? I know for a fact I have a heart. I have feelings. I love and have been loved. It's just that I also have a brain and an opinion.
It is amazing that people are outraged about A starving dog, but not outraged about THOUSANDS of PEOPLE dying Iraq, Afghanistan and other war zones.
This IS art, it has a message.
Calling the ALF to this post! If they can release minks from farms, then I'm sure they can rescue dogs from this dude's exhibits.
Why do you say I have no heart? I know for a fact I have a heart. I have feelings. I love and have been loved. It's just that I also have a brain and an opinion -
I understand you have an opinion.. So do I and my opinion is that you are heartless :)
"Many people have pointed out that the artist has definitely made the point that most people do not have the courage or the mindset to breach the mob mentality. So perhaps this man was successful in what he set out to do. The point is that we *should* go out of our way to make sure others (human or otherwise) are taken care of, but we more than often don't. It makes me want to vomit that the dog died in the presence of so many people, but would I do anything if I had the chance? I hope, with a "steak hyperbole" ready and waiting in my hand, I would."
You must be one of the most honest people here, by adding the word "hope." None of us can say what we could do in that situation. You may be surprised to see that I agree with you. "We are here to help each other get through this thing," that's how I've always seen it. I think we should help each other. But I still say that this was a piece of art simply because of the inspiration people have taken from it. Personally, I've found it very moving. And because I have, people want to shit in my face and rip my eyes out with rusty needles? What does that say about their moral high ground now?
If you need new dogs to starve I have a couple of puppies I have no other use for.
To Phillip Box: We all know how selfish and heartless people can be, we do not need to starve an innocent poor dog to remind us of this fact. I guess if I came to your house and raped your wife you'd consider it art somehow.
I don't agree with killing a dog for art, but you have to admit that it is a very moving piece. People die all over the world every day because of starvation. This just causes outrage because it's up-front and in your face. Starving people in some far-off country are easy to ignore and forget about. I bet all those people raising hell here will have forgotten about it tomorrow. Posers.
"I don't agree with killing a dog for art, but you have to admit that it is a very moving piece."
I've had more death threats in the last ten minutes because of my similar opinion than I have in the rest of my life.
Great controversy in the region has caused the work of Costa Rican artist Guillermo Vargas, known as Habakkuk, called Exposition. 1. The exhibition was filed last August in Gallery Codex, in Managua.
As part of the exhibition the artist tied in a corner of the room a street dog weak, sick and hungry, which captured in a poor neighbourhood of the capital and that, according to the Costa Rican newspaper La Nacion, died of hunger that night.
Also included as part of the work the phrase "You are what you read," written on a wall with dog food, as well as a version of Sandinista anthem backwards, as well as a censer in which 175 were burnt rocks of crack and one ounce of marijuana.
Vargas told The Nation that his work was a tribute to Natividad Canda and refused to say whether he fed the dog or not and refused to provide or deny the death of dogs.
According to him, the important thing was to show the hypocrisy of people and see how a dog becomes the focus of attention when it is in a gallery and not when they are on the streets.
The director said that the dog ate repeatedly and not died, but escaped during the night.
"It is amazing that people are outraged about A starving dog, but not outraged about THOUSANDS of PEOPLE dying Iraq, Afghanistan and other war zones."
What, are you retarded? This isn't a post about war zones. I'm sure people who are concerned about a starving dog are also concerned about war zones as they are likely to be liberal. Probably more liberal than you since you sound like a Libertarian.
I apoligize for offending anyone or making harsh and rash comments..
But my question is this -
When is enough enough??
What else is going to happen in the name of art??
When is someone going to go too far??
Again, this is my opinion but I believe this so called artist has done just that..
Gone too far!
Obviously raping my wife would not be art. All of these people are complaining about the dogs starvation. What are you doing about the fact that millions will die this year from starvation? That every day, thousands die because they don't have enough food. We ignore the problem because we can't see it. We all have the ability to end starvation, and the point of this piece is that even when someone is starving right in front of your face, and all you have to do is reach out and cut the damn cord, THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING. NOBODY did ANYTHING to save the dogs life. What don't you understand about that? Starvation is right in front of us, and we do nothing. This is pure art. This shows us reality in a way that most people will never be blessed to see.
That's so sad T^T
Now that is art. I'd pay to see that.
I know I've been posting under Anonymous, but I'm the asshole everyone hates because he thinks this is art.
Just wanted to say thanks for the discussion, those of you that remained mature. I've spent on hour on here, so I've got to go get some things done. Thanks.
Oh, and this is the most ridiculous Captcha I've ever used. I mean, I shouldn't have to type 16 letters before every post.
It seems to me that it wasn't about killing the dog, it was about the fact that sometimes THE RULES ARE WRONG.
The guy who put the dog out there did something wrong, yes. But you can't call the people who did nothing to change the situation innocent either. Lack of action isn't neutral. In this case, it's practically criminal. Waiting for someone else to take care of it is not an option.
Don't you think the people who saw it wish now that someone had done something? That THEY had done something? If you saw this dog in the display, would you feed it? Or would you say, God, I hope someone feeds that poor dog?
That's the difference here. That's the line between a moral crime and breaking the rules.
I agree with you on that !
Now what would have been art is if one of the gallery patrons stepped over the rope and set that dog free.
For the record.. I would have fed it...
And I'm making this promise now that if I ever see something like this in my lifetime, I won't let it go without a fight!
I would personally take this "artist's" life if I had the chance.
If this guy comes to London, I will chain him up in a remote basemen and watch him starve to death, whilst giving him a fucking good kicking now and then.
If he wanted to show that people have no courage to just feed the dog, he could have just waited and watched for a while...then if no one fed it he could have fed it himself. If that was his true "artistic" intention then why did he have to let the dog die to prove his point?
I honestly don't really see how horrible it is. if you think hard about it, that statement he was trying to make is interesting. The people that went to see the dog probably should have fed the poor thing, but they didn't because they were told not to even though the thing was forced upon because the dog was out in the open for people to feed it. I am sure the artist feels bad about the dog dying and he is ashamed in the stupidity of the people that attended the gallery. Everybody who thinks this is sick is correct but it's the attenders fault. i find that to be a beautiful way to express human behavior. It is terrible though. Just don't blame the artist.
in America there was a huge controversy surrounding an art exhibit that invovled an American flag lying flat on the floor with a guest book in the middle of it, so people would have to walk on the flag to sign it... if we created so much outrage for this, why are more people not outraged about the severe cruelty exemplified here
A few of my thoughts...
Whether or not it's art is a matter of personal opinion, but it hardly matters. Regardless of his intentions, his actions were morally lacking.
I'm not aware of the feelings towards dogs in Honduras, and I don't know about others, but I can't in good conscious starve anything that feels pain to death. Not even things like rats. If you're going to kill them, make it quick, there is no need to inflict suffering. There is enough in the world already that isn't intentional, you don't have to add to it.
For those that walked by, they were told not to feed the dog by a supposed "authority." This is a well known psychological phenomenon, and was shown in Milgram's experiment (google for it). Sad, but it is an unfortunately common thing.
Tie-up the artist, and the gallery viewers, and let them starve and die in the gallery. In the name of art, of course.
Everybody who thinks this is sick is correct but it's the attenders fault. i find that to be a beautiful way to human behavior. It is terrible though. Just don't blame the artist.-
I completely agree with you.. but the people who call this art are also to blame because if they keep defending it and calling it okay becasue it's art.. IT's going to happen again.. So it's also their fault for condoning this kind of behavior
You sir are not an artist. You are someone is not now nor will never be artistic on your own.
Your "art" requires you to trap a starving animal for people to stare at and ooohh and ahhh over as they drink expensive wine and deliberate their opinions regarding the legitimacy of the "piece" to hear themselves seem just a bit more intellectual then they really are.
What if that was your mother chained to that wall? would you promote it as a groundbreaking exibit? Would you walk around with your small piece of stale bread with some shitty forign cheese on it and talk about how you felt when you chained her to the wall?
This is the kind of thing some retard is going to dispute on the grounds that this kind of talk shows that it is a "stirring" artistic work. I strongly disagree!
People also are entralled with serial murder. That by no means makes it art.
both instances are criminal and evil. Nothing more!!!!!!!!!!!
What this post has verified is that Art and Stupid people don't mix very well. Bravo
what this post verifies is art is a piece of shit and a cop out and a way for some sicko to do some fucked up shit and get away with it in the name of art.
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more amazing how ppl don't DO anything when wrong like this occures. Fuck the artist, feed the dog! Everyone who visited the museum should be ashamed!
I think the guy responsible for this knew there would be heated reactions. And they are in a way justified ofcourse.
But the point I see in all this is to show the hipocrisy in today's society and how we deal with hunger and food.
We let people starve on a daily basis and only when it happens to a dog there's a moral outcry. The artist is just holding up a mirror for us all.
Wow.. its bad enough this guy did this, but to have a gallery and tell people not to feed it.. and for people to listen!!! can no one think for themselves, or care for things other than themself? and what was the point of this... other than to be a sadistic bastard and starve a dog?
sick fuck. how can you let a living being die and claim it to be art! someone should tie this ass hole in the gallery and let him starve to fucking death. art! my ass. if this idiot was in the us he would be arrested. shame on you ....
We let people starve on a daily basis and only when it happens to a dog there's a moral outcry. The artist is just holding up a mirror for us all.-
We also don't tie those people up to a wall and watch them as they suffer!
That's the difference!
shoulda stuck it in her but
To everyone threatening violence, you're stupid. How many times can these things be said: it's a different country with different morals towards dogs, and you're little blog comment will not help the dead dog or stop people from killing animals. I do not know what the message behind this exhibit was but im sure it was reasonable, all art has a message and reasoning behind it, and you all are jumping to extreme conclusions without even knowing the actual story behind the piece. If you're not an artist, you would not understand. Most artists would understand that it's about the emotions of seeing the dog, and the visuals of the dog. Plus, like another commenter said, there may of been no hope for the dog in the first place, when it was brought to the artist. To me it makes no difference if it is dying in a back-alley than in an art exhibit. All the copy-cat hate messages may be what the artist wanted. You could be making him very happy right now.
I have never supported PETA in my life, but this is just so wrong. Someone should let him starve to death.
To anyone who thinks this is art - is stupid...
To many horrible things have been done in the name of art..
Give it up! This guy is not an artist and will never be one.. He is a sad and very sick person.
all the people who said we should tie this guy to a pole and let him starve are stupid. Go to one of the poorest country's in the world and you can watch people starve to death all day long. if you want to see somthing realy cool go to youtube and look up animal slaughter in china. while i do not agree that this was art, it does prove a point. people care more for things than there common man, and that is what is truly sad. shame on you people!!!
I'm appalled that it takes such an action of cruelty to be heard. This is definitely art, but cruel and inhumane.
It's a disturbing testament to our species' ability to be absolutely apathetic, not thinking for ourselves or taking action. Not standing up for what they believe in.
I would have called the police, brought the dog a large meal, and attached the leash to myself. Take action, be a leader, make a difference.
Don't torture the artist, punish him for his actions as if he starved another person.
Fucking sick piece of shit. This is no art. You can push the message another way. Why not use a child? What's the difference? They suffer the same. He took a life for his own self-indulgence, and those that watch refused to feed it for the same reasons. Artistic egotism.
Quit talking about the starving people.. There's not much we can do for them.. I wish I could feed everyone in the world.. But we can't.. Face to truth.. We are talking about the here and now.. And this is a sad and very horrible thing that happened to this poor dog..
Everyone involved should be ashamed!
This IS art.
Art doesn't have to be pleasant, if anything the emotional reaction so many people have expressed proves beyond all doubt that this is art.
Cruel? A little, but vastly outweighed by the other suffering in the world allowed to continue by the inaction of those with the means to help.
Justified? Debatable. If the dog was near death anyway and they are seen as pests in this region, this seems like a good way to prevent a death being in vain.
You are a sick piece of shit, go fucking tie your self up in a room and let me take pictures.... actually scratch that go fall on some rocks.
I cannot even believe this was allowed, let alone, supported by people!!!!! How can people be so unfeeling to walk around the "exhibit" as if it's nothing more than a painting?????? This guy should be in JAIL, but instead, this torture was validated by the public!!!!!!!!
"cruel to starve a dog --- cruel to eat chicken? SHOW ME THE DIFFERENCE!!1!@"
Chickens are delicious.
Goddamn you guys sound like rednecks. Yes its art, you all thousands of creatures to die everyday, should we all slice our own balls open? Fuck it, it was a stray dog, it wasn't going to be saved,theres no animal protecters in that shithold of a country. who gives a shit. You want something to care about, start in your own country, human beings are still starving to death there, humans are worth saving alot more than dogs. If fuckers didnt realise, all of you saying "ooo i'd smash this guy" if your happy to risk yourself like this (or didn't you think he'd fight back) go do the world a favour. break into a shop to feed some hungy cunts. or save some of the 1000's of rats that die in medical testing if u care so much about animals. if your lucky this art will make you think about this sorta thing, maybe youll find yourself your very own stray and treat it better. or maybe your sit here touching yourself while your mommy calls you a big strong man.
To the person who said this is 'art': YOU are as sick as the evil monster who tortured an innocent creature!!!!!! It is NOT ART! And the animal was not just suffering "a little", but was in agony!!! ANYONE can see this!!! If you are that insensitive, you seriously need professional help!!!!
Holy Shit! This is gonna blow up bigger than that fuckwit American soldier who hucked a puppy off a cliff.
*Get's popcorn*
Goddamn you guys sound like rednecks. Yes its art, you all thousands of creatures to die everyday, should we all slice our own balls open? Fuck it, it was a stray dog, it wasn't going to be saved,theres no animal protecters in that shithold of a country. who gives a shit. You want something to care about, start in your own country, human beings are still starving to death there, humans are worth saving alot more than dogs. If fuckers didnt realise, all of you saying "ooo i'd smash this guy" if your happy to risk yourself like this (or didn't you think he'd fight back) go do the world a favour. break into a shop to feed some hungy cunts. or save some of the 1000's of rats that die in medical testing if u care so much about animals. if your lucky this art will make you think about this sorta thing, maybe youll find yourself your very own stray and treat it better. or maybe your sit here touching yourself while your mommy calls you a big strong man.
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Time to take your medication honey....
you all allow this to happen everyday to kids in africa. your the monsters. they might be black but they're still people. save them. screw the dog
Yes, people are starving all over the world. NO one here is saying that this dog is MORE important than people!!
BUT: there is absolutely NO excuse for purposely starving anything, or anyone!!!
THIS IS NOT ART! GOT IT YET????